The Last Supper and the Passover

Q&A


  • Hi Robert,

     

    This is just a few comments on the interesting topic of whether the Last Supper was the passover.  Like most people I grew up on the majority opinion that the Last Supper was the Passover.  However I'm quite open to the alternative view that you present.

     

    There are none the less some difficulties that remain on this question.  The first is Patristic support.  Have you done a survery of what the Fathers have to say on the status of the Last Supper?  I found by looking up Aquinas' Contra Errores Greaecorum this quote:

     

    "To this, however, Chrysostom replies, commenting on that very text of John: That they might not be defiled, etc.: “What does this mean, but that they ate the Passover on another day and broke the law in order that they might fulfill the most wicked desire of their soul in the death of Christ; Christ, however, did not transgress Holy Thursday in paschal week, but on that day he ate the Passover.” (Lib. 108, 3-8, from Chrysostom Super Matth. hom. 84, n 2 (PG 58, 754).)"

     

    So just doing a small bit of research that is one significant Father on side (not to mention with Thomas' support).

     

    Also have a look at this homily from Benedict XVI.  I'm not suggesting it is authoritative but he offers in there a defense of the Last Supper being the Passover especially based on new knowledge from the Dead Sea Scrolls:

    http://uvcarmel.org/2008/03/19/the-last-supper-explained-homily-of-his-holiness-benedict-xvi/

     

    God Bless,

     

    Matthew

     

    R. Sungenis: Matthew, my position on this, and topics like it, is that which is given by Leo XIII in Providentissimus Deus. Unless the Fathers have thoroughly investigated a topic, and after that are in consensus on the interpretation of it, then we are not obliged to court their opinion. We may use it as a help or even a thought-starter, but not as anything definitive. This would be especially true if only a few Fathers commented on the topic. And, when we find that the few that treated the topic merely make an assertion (as does Chrysostom's above) and do not provide any detailed exegesis of the passage in question, then it really has little value for us. Leo XIII taught that in such cases, we are obligated to go to Scripture and examine the original languages, which is what I did in my essay on the topic. If someone wants to challenge my position, then they would be required to deal with the exegesis of the passage I offer rather than quote a Father here or there that said something different but without any exegesis. In the larger picture, although the Fathers can be very valuable in arriving at truth, Catholics, by and large, need to refrain from proof-texting their way through the Fathers. We also need to remember that the Fathers did not have any special guidance from the Holy Spirit. They have many opinions on many subjects. In a way, we, today, are in a better position to judge the truth in various instances, since we have the whole patristic and medieval eras to consult; we also have the various instances in which the Church has dogmatized a certain belief, and we also have a great knowledge of the original languages which most of the Fathers and medievals did not have, since most only knew Latin. In a way, we are in a much better position to determine whether Jesus and the Apostles celebrated the Passover on Thursday night. At the least, it is an open topic of discussion.

  • VIDEO
  • VID 2
  • VID 3
  • VID 4
  • VID 5
  • VID 6
  • VID 7
  • VID 8
  • Vid 9
  • Vid 10
  • Vid 11
  • Vid 12
  • VID 13
  • VID 14
  • VID 15
  • VID 16
  • News
  • Opinion
  • Extra
  • Poll

New Movie!!!

News image

BREAKING NEWS -- "THE PRINCIPLE" IS COMING!   Those of you who have supported this minist... Read more

Comments

Are Evangelical Christians War

News image

By Chuck Baldwin September 15, 2011 Archived column: http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3971 R. Sungenis: This soberi... Read more

Comments

CHRISTIAN ZIONISM: The Source

News image

by Charles E Carlson The French author, Alexis de Tocqueville, wrote Democracy in America when he traveled here in th... Read more

Comments

Eucharistic Miracles of the Wo

News image

THE REAL PRESENCE CHRIST IN THE EUCHARIST The Eucharistic Miracles of the Worl... Read more

Comments

Can the Big Bang be Merged wit

News image

Can the Big Bang be Merged with Genesis 1? Vincent: Not sure how anything in the Big Bang contradicts Scripture. &nb... Read more

Comments

Do you believe in Evolution?

Popular Articles 

Book  Review of: The Israel Test by George Gilder
Obamacare Madates RFID Chip Implant for Every US Citizen by March 2013
Discussion with a Protestant on Sola Scriptura
The Jewish Roots, and the Catholic Failure, on Abortion
Discussion with a Modern Priest about the Interpretation of Scripture
Fr. Raymond Brown’s Hermeneutical Heresies
New Discoveries of the Constellations on  the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe
The Vatican’s “YouCat” Catechism: Weak on Homosexuality, Contraception, Euthanasia, Evolution, and Scripture.
Eucharistic Miracles of the World
The Private Lives of Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newto and Einstein
Should Women Wear Head Coverings?
Evolution Falsified, Once Again
Michael Dimond: Fear Monger and Poor Exegete
The Gospel According to John
Theological Foundations for the Doctrine of Purgatory
Baptism of Desire: Legit or not Legit?
Who is 666?    Article Review
E. W. Bullinger versus Robert Sungenis on the Real Presence
Guy Consolmagno Will Not Deny Geocentrism
USCCB Removes Heretical Sentence from Catechism
Response to Ronald L. Conte Jr. Regarding Evolution v. Creation
Response to James White’s Comments on Our Debate  Concerning Predestination/Free Will  and the Assumption of Mary
Anti-Semitism and Thought Control at Catholic University
Divine Revelation and Myth: An examination from Scripture,  Tradition, and the Magisterium by Salvatore J. Ciresi, M.A.
Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers?
Is the SSPX in Schism?
Dealing with Problems in the Papacy
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM: The Source of the Problem in the Middle East
Catholic Answers: Misguided Attempt to Support the Theory of Evolution.
E ≠ mc2
On the Ordination of Women (CNN Transcript)
Can the Big Bang be Merged with Genesis 1?
Catholic Doctrine of Creation Videos
Conversation with a Protestant about The Future of the Jews and Predestination in Romans 9
Pope accused of fomenting “anti-Semitic riots”?
A Reminder of What the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) Really is?
Are the Jews Still the Chosen People? A Response to Palm and Forrest
Rebuttal to Dr. Michael S. Horton on:
Dinosaurs of Ancient Israel
Gerry Matatics and Sedevacantism
Evolution: Fact or Belief?
Does Vatican II have a
The  Four Horsemen: The Real Reason for the Economic Crisis
Antidote to the Disease of Sedevacantism
A Review of David Klinghoffer’s:   Why the Jews Rejected Jesus
Rebuttal to Michael Horton on Justification
Meditation on
Assisi III and the Blind Pope
Bob's Dictionary of Big Words
Dr. Bennett Answers First Things on Evolution
The Insanity of Sedevacantism
The Gospel According to John Chapter 3
Second Rebuttal to Dr. James R. White on Predestination by Robert Sungenis
Debate between Catholic Apologetics International (CAI) and Former Catholics For Christ (FCFC) on Jesus' Eucharistic Presence Part
An Interview with Dr. E. Michael Jones on The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit
Sinclair Declares He Had Sex and Cocaine with Obama
Israel Ben Ami of the Association of Hebrew Catholics Pushing Heresy that the Mosaic Covenant is Still In Force
How to Answer Jews Who Use the Old Testament to Deny Christ
Cardinal Kasper and the Good Friday Prayer
  Robert Sungenis Vs. Dimond Bros
Is the Bible True or Not? A Response to the Bishops of the United Kingdom
Who or What is “Israel”?
Interview with Dominique Tassot re Science and the Vatican
A Review of Paula Fredriksen's
A Dialogue With a Confused Protestant
Response to Cardinal Avery Dulles on the Covenant of the Jews
Answers to Protestant Jason Engwer on Justification
Rebutal of Fr. Austriaco Views on Genesis
Intelligent Design vs. Naturalism
Does the Catechism Contain a Heresy?
Protestant Reviewer on Amazon.com Taken to Task
Roy Schoeman and Paragraph 674 of the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church
Another Failed Attempt to Defend Assisi and Other Scandalous Events in the Pontificate of John Paul II
Joseph Ratzinger’s American Mind or, The Sign of the American Occupation of the Church
James Drummy’s Miscue on the Inerrancy of Scripture
Robert Sungenis versus the Dimond Brothers on Sedevacantism: Round Three
Are Jews in the Family of God? A Response to Palm and Forrest
The God Who Made the Big and Small
USCCB’s 1988 Paper on the Liturgy & Seder Meals:  Full of Erroneous and Heretical Ideas about  the Jews, Judaism and Scripture
The Faithfulness of Pope Benedict XVI as seen Through the Eyes of Protestant Michael Horton
British Museum's Dept. of Palaeontology Says Fossil Evidence for Evolution Doesn't Exist

Latest comments

The Bellarmine Report • P.O. Box 278, State Line, PA 17263 • 800-531-6393
Created by Doxa